Friday, August 26, 2011
"N.C. eugenics survivors prove elusive"
8/26/11
To those who are participating in MODERN DAY EUGENICS:
Please be advised to all those who read this: that KATRINA was and is symbolic of MODERN DAY EUGENICS in the United States of America-[ the news article listed below said 1929 to 1974=LIE] and the reason they can't find the people who are alive that were victims is that they are not one of the their "PETS"[meaning working for males of the larger society]. And that KATRINA showed ONLY the tip of the what is really going on concerning mistreatment of African Americans. There is arguement as to weather KATRINA was intentional. The the effect of Eugenics on the victims of Eugenics was not based on intention; the effect was real; it killed what belonged to people; decisions were made for them; they were not allowed to make decisions for themselves and in the city of Winston-Salem, North Carolina where interestingly enough Mr. W-----[whom I have almost begged and pleaded for him concerning constant intimidatation/harassment/ interferance with my life] says that he cried when he found out about what the state of North Carolina did to citizens; not in the United States; BUT no tears for a present day person being subjected to the same type of system; that not only sterilizes physically but also economically.[guess person have to be one of the "PETS" of the male members of the larger society.][BUT wouldn't that be the same thing as what the people in 1819/1929 who had to do as they were told would call "Slavery"?
And as stated KATRINA was just the tip of what is happening to African Americans in the United States; so is Mr. W-----s reaction my plea and cries for intervention in the MONDERN DAY EUGENICS [which include putting camera's in people's eyes when they have surgery[experiments]; deciding if they should keep one child or two to raise[experiment]; probably putting tracking systems on them while in surgery; and using mind control systems to manipulate them][deciding who they can and can't date]=?
In the article "N.C. eugenics survivors prove elusive" it states that the survivors just can't seem to be found; BUT their "PETS" are making "money" have jobs off of the sorrows of others created by the state=????????; almost like harassing/intimidating a person with confinement if the person works and develope income without participating in illegal activities to force the person to the point of not being able to concentrate/focus to provoke the person into a negative plight in life. And the title of the articles sums up my entire life which as been"ELUSIVE"; meaning that in over twenty plus years of harassment, intimidation, and threats that help has been elusive; even by Mr. W----- who cried when he heard of what the state did to the African Americans [along with Mr.Wombles help being elusive, so was the help from some of Mr. W-----s other collogues].
You would think that in twenty plus years that someone in authority would intervene in the harassment/intimidation/abuse [like the Eugenics surviviors didn't ask for help]. For those of you who can think; Consider the population and number of African Americans during 1929; there were more African Americans than there were Caucasians; and ONLY 1,500 people were serilized=???? [remember the mindset of the majority of the people towards African Americans during 1929=not good].
Good example of MODERN DAY EUGENICS= African American women in the church can't have a husband UNLESS they are FAT and serve males of the larger society [system whereby the wife gives husband wrong information or tells the husband don't hinder what males of the larger society are doing to the smaller community of color][Movie-HITMAN=scene where the female tells the hitman="STOP" and then the hitmans says="She just saved your life."=why the African American minister's wife is controlled by the males of the larger society][Picture on "Sociology Area" blog].
"Longtime Forsyth United Way CEO to retire"[http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/03/30/article/longtime_forsyth_united_way_ceo_to_retire]; the New CEO of United Way is name CYNTHIA [CINTAs=CODE][United Way=relative[code] [CINTAS] has agreed to unite with the local community to [continue the system of "EUGENICS"] by the furtherance of harassment;
intimidate and stealing from "Socialpeacest"= the purpose of the the research by reading the "GUN DIGEST" magazine [where picture of female of the larger society using weapon].
As stated in "SURREPLY" those in higher authority put it in writing that the information was presented in such a way that "the facts and legal contentions are adequately presented in the materials before the court"
[information that was written a few minutes ago disappeared][conclusion is that the court said that they understand that those in authority are usining intimidation/harassment, etc. to coerce me into something negative and that I asked that if the courts decision was to dismiss the case that the United States court would give me exemption because that would leave the Plaintiff in a land of "NO Law" and that documents were given to the court that showed that ex employer [---'s -l--] [where the secret members were mostly males of the larger society] use weapons [-u-s] as a form of intimidation. The courts reply/response that "the facts and legal contentions are adequately presented in the materials before the court" mean that they have an adequeate understanding of the harassment/ intimidation/and abuse of the plaintiff; "Reference to the Dillinger Bridge Trial in New Orleans was made in the court documents".
N.C. eugenics survivors prove elusive
By Ann Doss Helms and Tommy Tomlinson
ahelms@charlotteobserver.com, ttomlinson@charlotteobserver.com
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/21/2542523/eugenics-survivors-prove-elusive.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1W9kiEZN6
They were labeled unfit parents, promiscuous or simply feebleminded, then sent by the thousands to surgeons who ensured they would never have babies again - or never at all.
The records are interred in rows of gray boxes in a cold basement of the state archives, waiting for survivors of North Carolina's eugenic sterilization program to step forward and claim them.
State officials say they believe at least 1,500 of the women, girls, boys and men sterilized under state authority from 1929 to 1974 are still alive.
But one year into a three-year quest to find them, only 34 files have been matched with living survivors or descendants of the dead. And officials' talk of paying for the victims' pain could end as a false hope.
A handful of survivors have gone public with their wrenching stories, drawing national attention. Yet those closest to North Carolina's effort to make victims whole question whether the state is acting in good faith.
"Some of (the survivors) have told me, 'Mr. Womble, they're trying to wait until we all die,' " says state Rep. Larry Womble of Winston-Salem, who's been pushing the victims' cause for a decade.
Gov. Bev Perdue created the N.C. Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation last year to shine some light on a dark time in North Carolina history. In the early part of the 20th century, authorities in this and other states embraced the idea of eugenics - the science of improving the human race by reducing the number of children born to parents with undesirable traits.
In practice, "undesirable" parents included ones with epilepsy and mental illness; it also included ones who were uneducated, abused or simply poor.
The Eugenics Board of North Carolina - one of many similar boards across the country - authorized sterilization of roughly 7,600 North Carolinians. Mecklenburg County did the most in the state, by far. From 1946 to 1968, when the state kept its most detailed records, 485 people in Mecklenburg were sterilized through the eugenics board. Gaston County was third, with 161.
The board sterilized people who fell into three categories: mental illness, such as schizophrenia; epilepsy; and people classified as "feebleminded," which usually meant a low score on an IQ test.
The board looked at other factors. Some people were pegged as too sexually active, or hard to control, or stuck in poverty. Most were women or girls. Some were as young as 10.
The Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation is supposed to find the survivors.
The state gave the foundation a $250,000 budget, spread over three years. That money pays for the staff - a full-time director, plus two part-timers - and an office in the state education building.
The foundation built a website and sent posters to social services offices throughout the state. But there's no money to advertise or send people into the field.
Charmaine Fuller Cooper, executive director of the foundation, says she's depending on news reports to get the message out. She suspects some survivors don't want to be found; they might want to forget what happened, or might never have told their families.
"This is a closet that we're opening," she says. "You never know what you can find."
The saddest matchmaking
Cooper and her assistants are taking about 200 calls a month now. They talk each caller through the process of seeing whether they or their loved ones are in the files. When she gets a batch of applications - the last was about 50 - she walks them a block over to the archives.
In an age where most everything is accessible with a click, the eugenics records show the methods of a different era.
Each patient was logged onto a piece of cardboard, like the old library card catalogs. Social Security numbers weren't used. Addresses were often route and box numbers. Eight trays are jammed full of the cards. They're kept in an underground storage space kept below 65 degrees.
State officials are emphatic about guarding the privacy of those who may have lived with decades of shame. Staffers sworn to protect the confidentiality of the records check the card catalog. If they find a match, they copy a 10- to 20-page file from the long lines of gray storage boxes, which resemble a columbarium used to store ashes of the dead.
It may be the saddest matchmaking operation in the country. Heirs are already arguing over whether to unearth files that tell of incest, sexual abuse, domestic violence, grinding poverty and degradingly obsolete attitudes toward people with mental illness or retardation.
Compensation complications
Even when the foundation does find survivors, it's not clear what - if anything - the state will do for them.
North Carolina is the first state to seriously consider compensating survivors. In March, Perdue created a five-person task force to figure out possible cash payments for people sterilized under the eugenics board. The task force has met four times but hasn't settled on an amount; the number it has talked about most is $20,000 per victim. But nothing's final, and the task force won't make an official recommendation until February.
The idea of compensating survivors has support across the political spectrum; both the liberal NAACP and the conservative/libertarian John Locke Foundation have come out in favor. The problem is money.
In Canada, the Locke Foundation notes, court judgments have forced large payouts: $740,000 to one eugenics victim who sued, $142 million to about 1,000 victims in another suit.
Even the $20,000 payment being discussed in North Carolina would add up to $30 million if 1,500 survivors were compensated. And North Carolina, like most states, is trying to cut from its budget rather than add to it.
The reluctance to pay angers Womble. He learned of the state-sponsored sterilizations when an academic researcher unearthed the records in the 1990s and shared them with a reporter from the Winston-Salem Journal, who called Womble.
"I really cried when I heard about it. I said, 'What? Not in America!' " he said.
He wants his colleagues in the legislature to approve money for cash compensation, education, medical care and counseling for surviving victims. He wants the state to get far more aggressive in its search for survivors: ads on buses and billboards, satellite offices around the state.
Perdue was hosting the Southern Governors' Association meeting in Asheville late last week; a spokesman said she was unavailable to comment.
Womble has introduced a bill that would provide $20,000 for each living survivor. He says it's up to the House speaker - now Thom Tillis, a Mecklenburg Republican - to let it get out of committee for a vote.
Tillis's press spokesman, Jordan Shaw, said Monday that he would try to get Tillis to talk about sterilization later in the week. After that, neither Shaw nor Tillis returned calls.
Womble doesn't buy the "no money" pitch: "You found the money to do the program. Find the money to compensate the victims."
Cooper finds herself forming a spiritual bond with those who step up.
"There's something in how they speak. They're very calm, almost angelic," she says. "To go through the things these people had to go through, you have to have a higher power with you."
She said she believes the only way the public will understand the enormity of what happened is to hear the victims' stories. And it's those stories, she says, that will spur legislators to make sure those who have spoken out are not sent away with empty apologies.
"The question now is, what do the legislators perceive as justice?" Cooper says. "If we're still casting judgment on victims from 40 or 50 years ago, are we any better? Is no decision actually a judgment?"
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/21/2542523/eugenics-survivors-prove-elusive.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1W9ks5igL
If you think you were sterilized under the N.C. eugenics board's program, or if you think a family member was, call the N.C. Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation toll-free at 877-550-6013, 10 a.m.-4 p.m. Mondays-Thursdays.
The Observer is also looking for victims and family members. Contact Ann Doss Helms (704-358-5033, ahelms@charlotteobserver.com) or
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/21/2542523/eugenics-survivors-prove-elusive.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1W9pwnYz3
• Tommy Tomlinson (704-358-5227, ttomlinson@charlotteobserver.com).
To those who are participating in MODERN DAY EUGENICS:
Please be advised to all those who read this: that KATRINA was and is symbolic of MODERN DAY EUGENICS in the United States of America-[ the news article listed below said 1929 to 1974=LIE] and the reason they can't find the people who are alive that were victims is that they are not one of the their "PETS"[meaning working for males of the larger society]. And that KATRINA showed ONLY the tip of the what is really going on concerning mistreatment of African Americans. There is arguement as to weather KATRINA was intentional. The the effect of Eugenics on the victims of Eugenics was not based on intention; the effect was real; it killed what belonged to people; decisions were made for them; they were not allowed to make decisions for themselves and in the city of Winston-Salem, North Carolina where interestingly enough Mr. W-----[whom I have almost begged and pleaded for him concerning constant intimidatation/harassment/ interferance with my life] says that he cried when he found out about what the state of North Carolina did to citizens; not in the United States; BUT no tears for a present day person being subjected to the same type of system; that not only sterilizes physically but also economically.[guess person have to be one of the "PETS" of the male members of the larger society.][BUT wouldn't that be the same thing as what the people in 1819/1929 who had to do as they were told would call "Slavery"?
And as stated KATRINA was just the tip of what is happening to African Americans in the United States; so is Mr. W-----s reaction my plea and cries for intervention in the MONDERN DAY EUGENICS [which include putting camera's in people's eyes when they have surgery[experiments]; deciding if they should keep one child or two to raise[experiment]; probably putting tracking systems on them while in surgery; and using mind control systems to manipulate them][deciding who they can and can't date]=?
In the article "N.C. eugenics survivors prove elusive" it states that the survivors just can't seem to be found; BUT their "PETS" are making "money" have jobs off of the sorrows of others created by the state=????????; almost like harassing/intimidating a person with confinement if the person works and develope income without participating in illegal activities to force the person to the point of not being able to concentrate/focus to provoke the person into a negative plight in life. And the title of the articles sums up my entire life which as been"ELUSIVE"; meaning that in over twenty plus years of harassment, intimidation, and threats that help has been elusive; even by Mr. W----- who cried when he heard of what the state did to the African Americans [along with Mr.Wombles help being elusive, so was the help from some of Mr. W-----s other collogues].
You would think that in twenty plus years that someone in authority would intervene in the harassment/intimidation/abuse [like the Eugenics surviviors didn't ask for help]. For those of you who can think; Consider the population and number of African Americans during 1929; there were more African Americans than there were Caucasians; and ONLY 1,500 people were serilized=???? [remember the mindset of the majority of the people towards African Americans during 1929=not good].
Good example of MODERN DAY EUGENICS= African American women in the church can't have a husband UNLESS they are FAT and serve males of the larger society [system whereby the wife gives husband wrong information or tells the husband don't hinder what males of the larger society are doing to the smaller community of color][Movie-HITMAN=scene where the female tells the hitman="STOP" and then the hitmans says="She just saved your life."=why the African American minister's wife is controlled by the males of the larger society][Picture on "Sociology Area" blog].
"Longtime Forsyth United Way CEO to retire"[http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/03/30/article/longtime_forsyth_united_way_ceo_to_retire]; the New CEO of United Way is name CYNTHIA [CINTAs=CODE][United Way=relative[code] [CINTAS] has agreed to unite with the local community to [continue the system of "EUGENICS"] by the furtherance of harassment;
intimidate and stealing from "Socialpeacest"= the purpose of the the research by reading the "GUN DIGEST" magazine [where picture of female of the larger society using weapon].
As stated in "SURREPLY" those in higher authority put it in writing that the information was presented in such a way that "the facts and legal contentions are adequately presented in the materials before the court"
[information that was written a few minutes ago disappeared][conclusion is that the court said that they understand that those in authority are usining intimidation/harassment, etc. to coerce me into something negative and that I asked that if the courts decision was to dismiss the case that the United States court would give me exemption because that would leave the Plaintiff in a land of "NO Law" and that documents were given to the court that showed that ex employer [---'s -l--] [where the secret members were mostly males of the larger society] use weapons [-u-s] as a form of intimidation. The courts reply/response that "the facts and legal contentions are adequately presented in the materials before the court" mean that they have an adequeate understanding of the harassment/ intimidation/and abuse of the plaintiff; "Reference to the Dillinger Bridge Trial in New Orleans was made in the court documents".
N.C. eugenics survivors prove elusive
By Ann Doss Helms and Tommy Tomlinson
ahelms@charlotteobserver.com, ttomlinson@charlotteobserver.com
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/21/2542523/eugenics-survivors-prove-elusive.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1W9kiEZN6
They were labeled unfit parents, promiscuous or simply feebleminded, then sent by the thousands to surgeons who ensured they would never have babies again - or never at all.
The records are interred in rows of gray boxes in a cold basement of the state archives, waiting for survivors of North Carolina's eugenic sterilization program to step forward and claim them.
State officials say they believe at least 1,500 of the women, girls, boys and men sterilized under state authority from 1929 to 1974 are still alive.
But one year into a three-year quest to find them, only 34 files have been matched with living survivors or descendants of the dead. And officials' talk of paying for the victims' pain could end as a false hope.
A handful of survivors have gone public with their wrenching stories, drawing national attention. Yet those closest to North Carolina's effort to make victims whole question whether the state is acting in good faith.
"Some of (the survivors) have told me, 'Mr. Womble, they're trying to wait until we all die,' " says state Rep. Larry Womble of Winston-Salem, who's been pushing the victims' cause for a decade.
Gov. Bev Perdue created the N.C. Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation last year to shine some light on a dark time in North Carolina history. In the early part of the 20th century, authorities in this and other states embraced the idea of eugenics - the science of improving the human race by reducing the number of children born to parents with undesirable traits.
In practice, "undesirable" parents included ones with epilepsy and mental illness; it also included ones who were uneducated, abused or simply poor.
The Eugenics Board of North Carolina - one of many similar boards across the country - authorized sterilization of roughly 7,600 North Carolinians. Mecklenburg County did the most in the state, by far. From 1946 to 1968, when the state kept its most detailed records, 485 people in Mecklenburg were sterilized through the eugenics board. Gaston County was third, with 161.
The board sterilized people who fell into three categories: mental illness, such as schizophrenia; epilepsy; and people classified as "feebleminded," which usually meant a low score on an IQ test.
The board looked at other factors. Some people were pegged as too sexually active, or hard to control, or stuck in poverty. Most were women or girls. Some were as young as 10.
The Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation is supposed to find the survivors.
The state gave the foundation a $250,000 budget, spread over three years. That money pays for the staff - a full-time director, plus two part-timers - and an office in the state education building.
The foundation built a website and sent posters to social services offices throughout the state. But there's no money to advertise or send people into the field.
Charmaine Fuller Cooper, executive director of the foundation, says she's depending on news reports to get the message out. She suspects some survivors don't want to be found; they might want to forget what happened, or might never have told their families.
"This is a closet that we're opening," she says. "You never know what you can find."
The saddest matchmaking
Cooper and her assistants are taking about 200 calls a month now. They talk each caller through the process of seeing whether they or their loved ones are in the files. When she gets a batch of applications - the last was about 50 - she walks them a block over to the archives.
In an age where most everything is accessible with a click, the eugenics records show the methods of a different era.
Each patient was logged onto a piece of cardboard, like the old library card catalogs. Social Security numbers weren't used. Addresses were often route and box numbers. Eight trays are jammed full of the cards. They're kept in an underground storage space kept below 65 degrees.
State officials are emphatic about guarding the privacy of those who may have lived with decades of shame. Staffers sworn to protect the confidentiality of the records check the card catalog. If they find a match, they copy a 10- to 20-page file from the long lines of gray storage boxes, which resemble a columbarium used to store ashes of the dead.
It may be the saddest matchmaking operation in the country. Heirs are already arguing over whether to unearth files that tell of incest, sexual abuse, domestic violence, grinding poverty and degradingly obsolete attitudes toward people with mental illness or retardation.
Compensation complications
Even when the foundation does find survivors, it's not clear what - if anything - the state will do for them.
North Carolina is the first state to seriously consider compensating survivors. In March, Perdue created a five-person task force to figure out possible cash payments for people sterilized under the eugenics board. The task force has met four times but hasn't settled on an amount; the number it has talked about most is $20,000 per victim. But nothing's final, and the task force won't make an official recommendation until February.
The idea of compensating survivors has support across the political spectrum; both the liberal NAACP and the conservative/libertarian John Locke Foundation have come out in favor. The problem is money.
In Canada, the Locke Foundation notes, court judgments have forced large payouts: $740,000 to one eugenics victim who sued, $142 million to about 1,000 victims in another suit.
Even the $20,000 payment being discussed in North Carolina would add up to $30 million if 1,500 survivors were compensated. And North Carolina, like most states, is trying to cut from its budget rather than add to it.
The reluctance to pay angers Womble. He learned of the state-sponsored sterilizations when an academic researcher unearthed the records in the 1990s and shared them with a reporter from the Winston-Salem Journal, who called Womble.
"I really cried when I heard about it. I said, 'What? Not in America!' " he said.
He wants his colleagues in the legislature to approve money for cash compensation, education, medical care and counseling for surviving victims. He wants the state to get far more aggressive in its search for survivors: ads on buses and billboards, satellite offices around the state.
Perdue was hosting the Southern Governors' Association meeting in Asheville late last week; a spokesman said she was unavailable to comment.
Womble has introduced a bill that would provide $20,000 for each living survivor. He says it's up to the House speaker - now Thom Tillis, a Mecklenburg Republican - to let it get out of committee for a vote.
Tillis's press spokesman, Jordan Shaw, said Monday that he would try to get Tillis to talk about sterilization later in the week. After that, neither Shaw nor Tillis returned calls.
Womble doesn't buy the "no money" pitch: "You found the money to do the program. Find the money to compensate the victims."
Cooper finds herself forming a spiritual bond with those who step up.
"There's something in how they speak. They're very calm, almost angelic," she says. "To go through the things these people had to go through, you have to have a higher power with you."
She said she believes the only way the public will understand the enormity of what happened is to hear the victims' stories. And it's those stories, she says, that will spur legislators to make sure those who have spoken out are not sent away with empty apologies.
"The question now is, what do the legislators perceive as justice?" Cooper says. "If we're still casting judgment on victims from 40 or 50 years ago, are we any better? Is no decision actually a judgment?"
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/21/2542523/eugenics-survivors-prove-elusive.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1W9ks5igL
If you think you were sterilized under the N.C. eugenics board's program, or if you think a family member was, call the N.C. Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation toll-free at 877-550-6013, 10 a.m.-4 p.m. Mondays-Thursdays.
The Observer is also looking for victims and family members. Contact Ann Doss Helms (704-358-5033, ahelms@charlotteobserver.com) or
Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/21/2542523/eugenics-survivors-prove-elusive.html#storylink=misearch#ixzz1W9pwnYz3
• Tommy Tomlinson (704-358-5227, ttomlinson@charlotteobserver.com).
